At a recent event, I got hit by a sniper using a M187D APS SR-2 system. I was very impressed with the velocity, distances shot and the overall package when explained it came tricked out on delivery. I live in a high desert region where it's warm, dry and can be windy. My new friend, the sniper, says he uses 30's when it gets a little windy, but 25's mostly. The gun is heavy, but not the heaviest brute you'll ever carry. The rifle was really accurate to about 60-70 yards, with some wind. You can move position without giving yourself a hernia. Trigger pull is smooth, rifle remains stable and resetting for follow up shots don't cause resighting issues. Oh, and by the way, when you do hit a target, they will know it! No effing around in that department. I was hit w days ago, and the bruise just keeps growing. That was from about 50', just saying. This is not a beginner's gun, it's very well manufactured and problem free. Get some.